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    How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Got about 6 acres full of it and spreading fast, will be left fallow this year in an effort too control it so what's best plan of attack?

    Thanks

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    I had a good result by getting the drainage sorted in a field that was badly infested with it.

    There is something but for the life of me I can't remember what it's called Most things just burn the top off without touching the roots, glyphosate does bugger all to it.
    If in doubt get a bigger hammer

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    Dave Applesquasher
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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Weedazol did a grand job in my orchards.
    Non selective though.
    Product called Kurtail is said to be good, again non selective.

    Sort the drainage is good advice but on the other hand our drainage system in one orchard was very clearly marked out by lines of marestail growing above the drains.

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Applesquasher View Post
    Weedazol did a grand job in my orchards.
    Non selective though.
    Product called Kurtail is said to be good, again non selective.

    Sort the drainage is good advice but on the other hand our drainage system in one orchard was very clearly marked out by lines of marestail growing above the drains.
    Thank you, it's been driving me nuts trying to think of it.

    I have seen drains blocked with marestail roots, so having a line above your drains doesn't surprise me.
    If in doubt get a bigger hammer

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    +1 used to be caledl Kybosh. Ammonium glufosinate. Very effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladycrofter View Post
    +1 used to be caledl Kybosh. Ammonium glufosinate. Very effective.
    Years ago it used to be called Challenge

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    Dave Applesquasher
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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerm View Post
    Years ago it used to be called Challenge
    Well that is embarrassing
    I use Challenge and didn't realise that is what the AI was.

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    I have been told that damaging the growth is key to a good chemical uptake as it has a very waxy texture a chems can run off. Dunno know if its true. Would a pass with heavy rollers break some of the stems? or flail it maybe?

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    I think a pass with a light roller would do a better job than a heavy one.

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Quote Originally Posted by kennyo View Post
    I have been told that damaging the growth is key to a good chemical uptake as it has a very waxy texture a chems can run off. Dunno know if its true. Would a pass with heavy rollers break some of the stems? or flail it maybe?
    +1, used to do amenity spraying of marestail, spray with full rate glyphosate and then walk on the stems to break the waxy coat and allow the chemical into plant. Do not cultivate as this will spread parts of the plant which will regenerate.

    On a field scale:
    1/. Sort out drainage
    2/. Spray
    3/. Light rib roll in both directions when the spray is still wet on the 'leaf'

    Repeat if there is regrowth

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    ...and it is most likely to be horse tail as marestail only grows in water

    Fact sheets from CEH:

    Horsetail http://www.ceh.ac.uk/sci_programmes/...tumspecies.pdf

    Marestail http://www.ceh.ac.uk/sci_programmes/...isvulgaris.pdf

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer Miggins View Post
    ...and it is most likely to be horse tail as marestail only grows in water
    +1

    marestail which grows in a couple of our ponds is on the red list for scarcer species in my county!

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Plough plough and plough,, it doesn't kill well with chemicals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Applesquasher View Post
    Well that is embarrassing
    I use Challenge and didn't realise that is what the AI was.
    Im talking 20 + years ago Dave, is your modern Challenge something completely different ?

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerm View Post
    Im talking 20 + years ago Dave, is your modern Challenge something completely different ?
    According to Pesticides Register, Challenge is still glufosinate-ammonium

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    Dave Applesquasher
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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    20+ years ago is little different than yesterday in my world.

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Sprayed a few acres of maretail last year with Kurtail - seems to have worked well. Just waiting to see what \ if any regrowth this spring.

    +1 for a light roll first which is supposed to help chemical into the plant through damage to stems as not much in the way of leaf, and what there is is waxy. Roots as far as I know can reach depths of a couple of metres so with a well established root structure a couple of applications is likely. I seem to remember Kurtail being pretty expensive too...

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Quote Originally Posted by TristanP View Post
    Sprayed a few acres of maretail last year with Kurtail - seems to have worked well. Just waiting to see what \ if any regrowth this spring.

    +1 for a light roll first which is supposed to help chemical into the plant through damage to stems as not much in the way of leaf, and what there is is waxy. Roots as far as I know can reach depths of a couple of metres so with a well established root structure a couple of applications is likely. I seem to remember Kurtail being pretty expensive too...
    errr, Kur Tail is glufosinate ammonium ie the same as Challenge.

    Given that the roots are actually rhizomes, I wonder how good Kur Tail/Challenge is at being translocated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by strip-till-phil View Post
    Got about 6 acres full of it and spreading fast, will be left fallow this year in an effort too control it so what's best plan of attack?

    Thanks
    HEAVY dose of Ally, I mean full rate

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    I was told repeated rolling with Cambridge rollers will help to control it. Use a good wetter with chemical to help uptake.

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    Re: How to get rid of Mares tail?

    Its all there in the BFF archive.NOT

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    Had a lot of success with a 2 litre dose of Starane, selective also if you are in grass

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